Do Edhatters know what the new County rules are for adding additional units to a residential property? I own a small rental house in Noleta (unincorporated suburbs near Goleta).
It's on a big lot (1/3 acre) and the house itself is due for major repairs, so this seems like a good time to add another unit if I can afford it.
I'd love to hear if you've had experience with this recently, and if you have suggestions for professionals with advice and planning help.
We're thinking of using modern pre-cut or pre-fabricated structures. Or maybe not. There's also a possibility of a new state-enabled lot split. Just now getting started on this. The County Planning site has some useful documents. I still have many questions.
Call land use planners. Jarrett Gorin (805) 448-5700 Mark Morando (805) 680-2730 There are different rules between junior ADUs and ADUs, between owner occupied and non owner occupied.
Call land use planners. Jarrett Gorin (805) 448-5700 Mark Morando (805) 680-2730 There are different rules between junior ADUs and ADUs, between owner occupied and non owner occupied.
My neighborhood has higher prices due to larger than normal lot sizes and single family zoning. 4 people on this short block are building ADUs. My guess is that house prices for non-ADU homes will go down due to parking problems and density issues, thus forcing us all to build ADUs so we can sell and move to somewhere as nice as what we used to have.
My neighborhood has higher prices due to larger than normal lot sizes and single family zoning. 4 people on this short block are building ADUs. My guess is that house prices for non-ADU homes will go down due to parking problems and density issues, thus forcing us all to build ADUs so we can sell and move to somewhere as nice as what we used to have.
MM1970 Why yes it is a statewide thing.. Personally I vote Local, State and Federal. I should not have assumed PITMIX would be leaving CA..
MM1970 Why yes it is a statewide thing.. Personally I vote Local, State and Federal. I should not have assumed PITMIX would be leaving CA..
@SAIL, isn't this a state-wide thing, not a local thing?
@SAIL, isn't this a state-wide thing, not a local thing?
We have 3 ADUs within a block of us that have been here for almost 3 years and the four houses sold within 1 and 1/2 blocks from us have gone from 900k and 1 million up 1.3 to 1.7 million. These are just little San Roque cottages at 1/5 acre not the large lots you're talking about.
We have 3 ADUs within a block of us that have been here for almost 3 years and the four houses sold within 1 and 1/2 blocks from us have gone from 900k and 1 million up 1.3 to 1.7 million. These are just little San Roque cottages at 1/5 acre not the large lots you're talking about.
PITMIX After you sell and move, don't vote to make your new place just like the one that was ruined!!!
PITMIX After you sell and move, don't vote to make your new place just like the one that was ruined!!!
Over-crowding and traffic were huge factors driving us from SB and everyone of these ADU's further presses these dynamics that ultra-urbanize a former beach town. The construction of Paseo Nuevo with the usurping of part of De la Guerra St. was a horrible portend of the urbanization that has followed. And now ADU's to add to the general quality of life. e.g. I remember parking on upper Loma St was a nightmare in the 70's (and got worse), how will ADU's benefit the quality of life in SB?
Over-crowding and traffic were huge factors driving us from SB and everyone of these ADU's further presses these dynamics that ultra-urbanize a former beach town. The construction of Paseo Nuevo with the usurping of part of De la Guerra St. was a horrible portend of the urbanization that has followed. And now ADU's to add to the general quality of life. e.g. I remember parking on upper Loma St was a nightmare in the 70's (and got worse), how will ADU's benefit the quality of life in SB?
Fears confirmed. The owner is planning to build the least costly, ugliest, most uninteresting structure now that the rules are gone. And posts the plan publicly without chagrin. Greed and disregard for your community are now even more acceptable. We need to eliminate the legislative mandate that ties the hands of local planning (SB 9 and 10). There will be a referendum or initiative circulating soon to get a public vote on this. Be supportive of that. See https://ourneighborhoodvoices.com/
Fears confirmed. The owner is planning to build the least costly, ugliest, most uninteresting structure now that the rules are gone. And posts the plan publicly without chagrin. Greed and disregard for your community are now even more acceptable. We need to eliminate the legislative mandate that ties the hands of local planning (SB 9 and 10). There will be a referendum or initiative circulating soon to get a public vote on this. Be supportive of that. See https://ourneighborhoodvoices.com/
Chip- Your statement is generally correct but not in the case of SB 9&10 and the ADU law. These laws were written and lobbied for by Realtors, developers and contractors. Nothing about it is green or progressive. 71% of California residents oppose these state mandated housing laws that strip local control and zoning regulations. Santa Barbara County, the City of Goleta and the City of SB all wrote to the Governor to state their official opposition to SB 9. In fact 250 cities in California wrote in opposition of SB 9. Our state reps didn’t even have the guts to vote knowing the strong opposition. I hope. 24 hrs after the recall election failed Gavin signed these bills into law.
Chip- Your statement is generally correct but not in the case of SB 9&10 and the ADU law. These laws were written and lobbied for by Realtors, developers and contractors. Nothing about it is green or progressive. 71% of California residents oppose these state mandated housing laws that strip local control and zoning regulations. Santa Barbara County, the City of Goleta and the City of SB all wrote to the Governor to state their official opposition to SB 9. In fact 250 cities in California wrote in opposition of SB 9. Our state reps didn’t even have the guts to vote knowing the strong opposition. I hope. 24 hrs after the recall election failed Gavin signed these bills into law.
Chip-I live rural. Realistically it is the only truly sustainable life where we focus on local resources as much as possible. Pile 'em into rabbit warrens in an ever more dense fashion? Well, tell me how it works out for them, and they best not get wind of any another life outside!
Chip-I live rural. Realistically it is the only truly sustainable life where we focus on local resources as much as possible. Pile 'em into rabbit warrens in an ever more dense fashion? Well, tell me how it works out for them, and they best not get wind of any another life outside!
Channelfog and RHS, the progressive and Green solution to housing is in fact high density urban development. That’s why our progressive democratic state leadership passed the ADU law, the lot split law, and why they are pursuing more new laws to facilitate high density housing development. The idea is people can ride bikes, use public transport, and generally live their lives on a smaller scale with a smaller environmental footprint. If you support building mid-20th century style single family homes on large lots, you might be a republican. If you support local control over state intervention, you might be a republican. If you support restrictions on immigration to reduce our population and drive up wages, you might be a republican.
Channelfog and RHS, the progressive and Green solution to housing is in fact high density urban development. That’s why our progressive democratic state leadership passed the ADU law, the lot split law, and why they are pursuing more new laws to facilitate high density housing development. The idea is people can ride bikes, use public transport, and generally live their lives on a smaller scale with a smaller environmental footprint. If you support building mid-20th century style single family homes on large lots, you might be a republican. If you support local control over state intervention, you might be a republican. If you support restrictions on immigration to reduce our population and drive up wages, you might be a republican.
Chip- Water is actually, surprisingly, in the Coastal West, the least of issues. Folks are gung-ho to burn fossil, solar or whatever for desal. Transportation however, whether the very limited 101 corridor or local street traffic is more ugly every day. Residential housing congestion, and increased density of people on beaches, waves, and the back country, not to mention streets and stores, looks nothing like old SB. Yes, change is constant, yet I cannot imagine the "egalitarian" build out SB that I believe you are suggesting.
Chip- Water is actually, surprisingly, in the Coastal West, the least of issues. Folks are gung-ho to burn fossil, solar or whatever for desal. Transportation however, whether the very limited 101 corridor or local street traffic is more ugly every day. Residential housing congestion, and increased density of people on beaches, waves, and the back country, not to mention streets and stores, looks nothing like old SB. Yes, change is constant, yet I cannot imagine the "egalitarian" build out SB that I believe you are suggesting.
Chip, I think people who follow my comments on Edhat know that I am far from a Republican. I am not a Democrat either, however. My politics are Green and progressive. I have worked all my career on behalf of the poor, by the way. I believe that we need to protect and extend a civil society with quality of life for all. This includes clean water and air. Less congestion and static. Single family residential zones are not per se exclusive. They have been the ambition of the working class and middle class from at least WWII on. Alternatives such as are now being pushed to cram more people into closer quarters remind me of the creation of the tenement houses in NYC or seem exemplified by the proposed bee hive like dorm at UCSB. The people advocating these "solutions" seem willing to ignore humanities necessary and genetic contact with nature. I have long believed that the only solution to our current destructive behavior is a policy of fewer people, less consumerism, fairer work and pay, and a commitment to the long term protection of the eco-system that create us in the first place. Short term expedient compromises will only make things worse.
Chip, I think people who follow my comments on Edhat know that I am far from a Republican. I am not a Democrat either, however. My politics are Green and progressive. I have worked all my career on behalf of the poor, by the way. I believe that we need to protect and extend a civil society with quality of life for all. This includes clean water and air. Less congestion and static. Single family residential zones are not per se exclusive. They have been the ambition of the working class and middle class from at least WWII on. Alternatives such as are now being pushed to cram more people into closer quarters remind me of the creation of the tenement houses in NYC or seem exemplified by the proposed bee hive like dorm at UCSB. The people advocating these "solutions" seem willing to ignore humanities necessary and genetic contact with nature. I have long believed that the only solution to our current destructive behavior is a policy of fewer people, less consumerism, fairer work and pay, and a commitment to the long term protection of the eco-system that create us in the first place. Short term expedient compromises will only make things worse.
Channelfog, there is plenty of water in Santa Barbara and the surrounding area to support a tremendous amount of new housing development. Choosing not to update our infrastructure while the population increases is not a valid excuse to block the construction of new housing units. In addition, every irrigated agricultural property you see is using enough water to support a massive housing development. If we chose to, we could easily supply enough water for more housing, but this isn’t really about that. It’s about fighting change and innovation, and it’s about trying to preserve the existing character of neighborhoods. The irony in wealthy “democrats” and “liberals” trying to prevent the riff-raff from moving into their exclusive neighborhoods of $1,000,000+ properties is just too rich for words.
Channelfog, there is plenty of water in Santa Barbara and the surrounding area to support a tremendous amount of new housing development. Choosing not to update our infrastructure while the population increases is not a valid excuse to block the construction of new housing units. In addition, every irrigated agricultural property you see is using enough water to support a massive housing development. If we chose to, we could easily supply enough water for more housing, but this isn’t really about that. It’s about fighting change and innovation, and it’s about trying to preserve the existing character of neighborhoods. The irony in wealthy “democrats” and “liberals” trying to prevent the riff-raff from moving into their exclusive neighborhoods of $1,000,000+ properties is just too rich for words.
Chip- With all do respect, the South Coast has extremely limited and highly stressed infrastructure and resources in terms of water, transportation, and room for expansion. Yes, the latter problem could be a Miami high rise approach, but the reality is that Santa Barbara was built long ago though as to when that happened is infinitely debatable! "Preserving elite neighborhoods" may be a function of a once affordable, high quality middle class life being priced out of reach. There comes a point where the quality of life graph and the cost of life graph collide and the result is less quality at much more cost.
Chip- With all do respect, the South Coast has extremely limited and highly stressed infrastructure and resources in terms of water, transportation, and room for expansion. Yes, the latter problem could be a Miami high rise approach, but the reality is that Santa Barbara was built long ago though as to when that happened is infinitely debatable! "Preserving elite neighborhoods" may be a function of a once affordable, high quality middle class life being priced out of reach. There comes a point where the quality of life graph and the cost of life graph collide and the result is less quality at much more cost.
RHS, I’m shocked by your comment. You seem to favor strict rules to preserve single family residential zoning, and you seem to wish to maintain a high standard for architectural style and the character of neighborhoods. Not only do you wish to preserve elite neighborhoods that are only accessible to the wealthy (talk about inequality), you are also advocating for tying the hands of the Democrat supermajority in charge of our state that in order to ensure local control. Are you a republican or something?!?!
RHS, I’m shocked by your comment. You seem to favor strict rules to preserve single family residential zoning, and you seem to wish to maintain a high standard for architectural style and the character of neighborhoods. Not only do you wish to preserve elite neighborhoods that are only accessible to the wealthy (talk about inequality), you are also advocating for tying the hands of the Democrat supermajority in charge of our state that in order to ensure local control. Are you a republican or something?!?!
here ya go.....New ADU County rules https://santabarbaracounty.ca.gov/plndev/permitting/adu-jadu.sbc
here ya go.....New ADU County rules https://santabarbaracounty.ca.gov/plndev/permitting/adu-jadu.sbc
I agree, get accurate information straight from the horse's mouth, not hearsay from an uninformed public.
I agree, get accurate information straight from the horse's mouth, not hearsay from an uninformed public.
Bone structure, steel frame homes, up in a week https://bonestructure.ca/en/home/ Boxabl homes, ready to go https://www.boxabl-homes.com/boxable-homes/ you should check with County planning regarding ADU's ....
Bone structure, steel frame homes, up in a week https://bonestructure.ca/en/home/
Boxabl homes, ready to go https://www.boxabl-homes.com/boxable-homes/
you should check with County planning regarding ADU's ....
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